• Ziglin (it/they)@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    I too am out of the loop but why not use tor? The VPN companies can still trace it back to you if what you did turned out to be illegal.

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      11 hours ago

      I’m not an expert by any means here, but my impression is that it at some point comes down to a tradeoff between security/anonymity and having a fast enough connection. TOR slows you down much more than an ordinary VPN is what I’ve heard.

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      22 hours ago

      Because streaming over tor is 1) painfully slow and 2) a dick move for the whole network that is very important to others.

      VPN don’t give a crap about people pirating, and governments probably don’t as much as people think (I guess that depends heavily on your country), but if you really want to be safe, go for one of the logless vpn, like mullvad or ivpn.

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        9 hours ago

        That’s fair piracy probably is safer than most people have you believe.

        I still wouldn’t go for any VPN that clearly logs stuff that can be traced back to me, that would defeat most of the purpose (unless it’s one for accessing machines in my home network).

        Also if you’re downloading it first I don’t really see the relevance of speed, just do it the day before.

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          7 hours ago

          Technically a vpn is a private company while ISPs I guess have less freedom over government request compliance. So a vpn would be slightly better but yes, very little added value if it’s one of the mainstream ones like nord or tunnelbear

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      21 hours ago

      That’s why I suggested trusted vpn companies. Proton keeps no logs, so they couldn’t hand it over if even they wanted to. I also suggested VPN as opposed to TOR because TOR can be fiddly*, and complicated because of that to a non-techy person (which is what this person had said they were). The speeds of TOR are also not good for streaming.