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What a shit show, honestly.

IDK if I really want to know but I can imagine a mid-to-far-left party like the greens would have a lot of disparity in the views of members.

God that’s cringey. Do you practice that in the mirror? “We will not speak again. History will speak for me.” What does that even mean?

History will probably confirm that Americans on both sides of the political divide have become less tolerant, and find silly ways to justify their intolerance while being completely unable to acknowledge their own shortcomings.

My comment isn’t a personal attack. I was trying to demonstrate the problem with you using the paradox of intolerance as an excuse to be intolerant. While you’re using the paradox to be intolerant of out-group, out-group is doing the same to you.

Exactly what a trump follower would say.

That’s absolutely how Trump works.

You seem genuinely oblivious to how intolerant you are.

As though you have a list of “social crimes” and when you, being the judge and jury, find someone guilty of being intolerant they’re green lit to be “untolerated”.

This is exactly what I was talking about when I said that the paradox of tolerance is mostly used as justification for not tolerating people you personally deem to be intolerant.

You understand that every conservative would use all sorts of labels to describe you right? Trump would refer to you as “the radical left”. He would also say you’re intolerant of his followers.

It takes a complete lack of self awareness to think that no one would label you in the same way you label others. Well done.

Conservatives at large have been labeled “intolerable” based on their abject refusal to support basic protections of human rights and safety, bad-faith arguments, bait and switching, lying directly to the faces of their constituents as well as to other lawmakers who require an assumption of trust in order to operate, and actively and frequently calling for violence and murder against non-violent members of the out-group.

This sentence contains the problem discussed at length in the wikipedia article and addressed in my original comment.

You’ve made a sweeping generalisation about conservatives, by applying a range of very specific behaviors to an entire out-group in a categorical and binary way.

To really dumb it down, some conservatives might just be idiots, and not actually intolerant. You’re seeking to weild the paradox of intolerance against them.

Of course it is.

That’s exactly how it’s being used here.

It’s just that you don’t want to tolerate the people this comment is targeting.

Good job ignoring the part about arbitrary labels.

Kenyon has not been charged with a crime and a police spokesperson confirmed he was not the suspect that officers were seeking as part of a theft investigation.

Hadn’t done anything.

Everyone loves invoking the paradox of tolerance because it makes you sound smart and progressive.

Paradoxically, it’s most often used as an excuse to be intolerant of some group that you have arbitrarily branded as intolerant.

I hereby pronounce you intolerant, thereby according to the docterine of the paradox of tolerance you are forthwith stripped of your right to be tolerated.

As always, the problem is nuanced and you need to consider carefully the extent to which you’re willing to tolerate what level of intolerance under what circumstances.

Nah. Loads of things just shouldn’t be privatised.

Oh please. Pathetic. This is the wet lettuce slap Musk was predicting.

Queue a big song and dance about corrupt courts stifling free speech and manipulating elections. Great opportunity to splash headlines everywhere about a lottery whereby you can win $1m by voting for Trump, because he’s a very rich and very successful businessman.

This whole shit show is cooked. There is no justice, honesty, or transparency. It’s just idiots pissing in each others pockets all the way down.

It really depends.

I’m in Australia so while I detest our conservative party leader (not presently prime minister but probably one day), he’s not really as abhorrent as Trump.

If someone very close to me who I care about quietly mentioned that they voted for someone as awful as Trump, that wouldn’t be immediate irrevocable dismissable from my “inner circle”, but it would certainly change how I thought of them.

Perhaps oddly, it would be a bit like someone saying they believed vaccines were harmful or that the earth is flat. They’re not stupid (necessarily), but there’s some complex and concerning psychological stuff going on.

Nonsense.

You said something stupid. Now you’re trying to back it up to avoid admitting it was a poorly considered brain fart. This is the worst part of social and frankly, cowardly. In an anonymous medium like lemmy no one cares if you’re right.

It’s not cowardly to wait until the moment you’ll have the best impact to make a statement like this.

She would’ve contacted the Harris campaign early on offering to endourse, and they’ve orchestrated and scheduled this release amongst everything else.

What do you mean?

They’ll face the same consequences whether they step up now, or before early voting.

Presumably, they think early voters are not undecided, and that this is the right timing to have the best impact.

It’s like an emotional fixation with the word “genocide”. I have a morbid fascination with that frame of mind. Like what is the compulsion to believe everyone around you is evil? In any case, I don’t think this person is capable of helping me understand that.

Semantics.