Fuck Trump

First off: We’re in a shitpost community.

You should learn the difference between shitpost and shithead. Take care.

You’re the only one getting bent out of shape here.

Ah… so you’re only trolling.

derailed the whole conversation

What conversation? A bunch of people with a hard-on for LLMs got distracted and hijacked the thread for their crusade.

I know that reading and learning can be difficult, but you should really give it a try, sometime.

I’d much rather see AI “slop” than the stupid fucking bullshit coming from you.

Ah… so you’re ready to go get bent out of shape that someone would dare make (and review) a simple list created by LLM in the guise that you want to see people participate, but when they participate you bail out with “I’m not really interested.”

Grow up.

write an essay

It was a simple and well written list that answered the question that was asked. What fucking difference would it have made if I created the bulleted list myself if it said essentially the same thing. Are you pissed off at LLM or that I somehow ‘cheated’ and only spent a minute to produce the list instead of 15? What exactly is your problem with it?

I’m interested in what you have to say,

What I had to say is that 9/11 resulted in security theater and our freedoms being infringed upon. There was a request for examples. I provided said list. That it didn’t come just from me somehow irrationally pisses you off. That’s a “you problem”, not a “me problem”.

we can also ask an LLM just like you did

It’s actually a pretty good starting place that more people should consider. The risk is that many of you are incapable of reading the output and making an educated assessment of whether what was returned is good information or actual slop. Both are possible outcome.

But this is a forum for humans.

Which is why I responded in the first place with a quick compilation widely available information and why I reviewed what was returned. You just have a very uninformed and irrational hatred of LLM just like anti-vaxxers have a very uninformed and irrational hatred of vaccines.

That’s why it’s expected that everyone write their own posts.

Oh fuck off with that… do I have to write it in cursive on college ruled notebook paper and scan it in and post it, too? Do you say the same thing to people who post wikipedia links? Do you say the same thing to people who post links to studies?

You’re the new “measles party” movement.

That would be you… may you find a good use for that information.

If I wanted Claude or Jippity’s answer I’d ask them myself.

You could actually do everyone a favor by doing that. Do you lack the reading and comprehension skills to know if you’re getting something back that is suspect? If you had actually done that, then nobody would have to compile the well known and commonly available information for you.

Posting unfiltered slop

Ah, but it wasn’t unfiltered and, in this case, wasn’t slop.

You’re the new “measles party” movement

Tell me you don’t understand metaphors without telling me you don’t understand metaphors…

I will complain about people who choose to be really fucking stupid.

I did read it. Don’t be such a fucking fool… You’re the new anti-vaxxer movement.

AI response, but it looks pretty solid…

The post‑9/11 response in the United States did not abolish the Bill of Rights, but it shifted the balance toward government surveillance, secrecy, detention, and border control—often reducing privacy, due-process protections, and freedom from discriminatory scrutiny. Many powers were created or broadened through the USA PATRIOT Act, passed October 26, 2001, and later executive programs and immigration policies. ala

Privacy and Fourth Amendment protections

The largest practical loss was a weaker expectation that the government needed individualized, fact-based suspicion before collecting information or monitoring communications.

• The PATRIOT Act expanded authorities for monitoring telephone and internet communications, accessing stored communications, and obtaining records such as banking and credit information. ala
• Authorities could seek certain business records—including potentially library, bookstore, financial, medical, and internet-related records—under standards critics argued were below traditional criminal probable cause and with limited meaningful judicial review. aclu
• “Roving” wiretaps made it easier to follow a person across changing devices or accounts rather than tying surveillance to one named phone line or device. This was designed for counterterrorism but increased the possibility of incidental collection involving people not suspected of wrongdoing.
• “Sneak-and-peek” search powers allowed delayed notice of some searches: agents could enter, search, and sometimes seize property before telling the target. The principle affected was the normal expectation of prompt notice and the ability to challenge a search quickly. aclu

A later reform, the USA FREEDOM Act of 2015, prohibited bulk collection under PATRIOT Act Section 215 and added some transparency and court-review mechanisms—an acknowledgment that earlier authorities had permitted collection at an overly broad scale. judiciary.house

Due process and detention

For noncitizens especially, post‑9/11 policy weakened the practical protection against being detained without prompt charges and a meaningful opportunity to contest the detention.

• The government asserted broad authority to detain certain people designated “enemy combatants,” including arguments for detention without ordinary criminal charges or a conventional criminal trial.
• Immigration-related changes and counterterrorism policy enabled lengthy detention of noncitizens suspected of terrorism-related activity, sometimes under conditions of secrecy or with restricted access to the normal procedural safeguards available in standard criminal cases. aclu
• At Guantánamo Bay and in related military-detention practices, detainees faced years of litigation over whether they could challenge their confinement through habeas corpus—the fundamental right to ask a court to review whether the government is lawfully holding someone.

The important distinction is that these restrictions were most severe for foreign nationals and people accused of links to terrorism. But legal precedents and government claims of executive power also raised broader concerns about how much judicial oversight could be bypassed in a declared national-security emergency.

Equality, religious freedom, and movement

Muslim, Arab, South Asian, Sikh, and immigrant communities bore a disproportionate share of the social and governmental consequences.

• Federal investigations, immigration enforcement, watchlisting, and intelligence collection focused heavily on people from Muslim-majority countries or those perceived to be Muslim.
• The result was a reduced practical freedom to travel without extra scrutiny, live free of government suspicion based on identity or association, and participate in civic life without fear that ordinary religious, charitable, or political activity could be interpreted as a security concern.
• Programs that tracked foreign students and expanded scrutiny of immigrants created additional monitoring and administrative burdens on foreign nationals. ebsco
• Airport security also became much more intrusive for everyone: searches, identity checks, limits on what could be carried aboard, no-fly and watch lists, and more extensive screening became normal conditions of air travel. These measures did not remove the right to travel outright, but made its exercise more conditional and surveilled.

Speech, association, and secrecy

Some freedoms were affected indirectly, through the risk or perception of surveillance rather than a direct legal ban.

• When people believe their calls, emails, web activity, library use, donations, or organizational affiliations can be monitored, they may avoid controversial reading, political advocacy, religious association, or communication. This is often called a chilling effect on speech and association.
• National Security Letters could compel businesses to provide certain customer information while imposing nondisclosure (“gag”) requirements. Later reform allowed challenges and required review of whether such orders remained necessary. judiciary.house
• Secrecy around surveillance programs, watch-listing decisions, intelligence-court proceedings, and detention made it harder for affected people and the public to know what government agencies were doing, identify errors, or contest them.

Never forget that our government allowed the actual perps leave the country and then claimed someone else did the deed so they could invade another country for oil. Also - gave them an excuse to take away our freedoms through security theater.

Never knew it was the same person… it’s a shame that we missed out on an Eeyore Prime.

What do you call a masturbating bull?

Beef Strokeinoff

This is a great metaphor for the internet… it used to be cool. Now it’s full of capitalism and dumb-shits who mess it up.

Why? What a waste of resources… she’s dead from all of the usual circumstances. Move on…

May he crash and burn…

We would tell you, but you really shouldn’t know…