Last week I made a post asking if I should buy an old vintage monitor.

Well, I went back to the recycled goods store this week and it was still there, so $30 later I have it, and it seems to just work*

There’s very little about this monitor on the internet, so I’m thinking of documenting as much as I can about it, especially as it’s Osborne branded so there could be some interesting history behind it.

* The power button is stuck on, and it does an occasional unsettling arc sound and the image slightly distorts for a millisecond. I believe the latter is fairly common among old CRTs but I don’t know much more than that.

  • ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Do you know much about crt maintenance? If so get on it!

    If not: it seems like it’s in good shape but based on your description of the arcing sound and image distortion you may have high voltage leakage.

    Before investigating the fix for that start with basics: clean the inside of the case. Open it up, don’t touch anything dangerous yet (turn it off and disconnect power though, obviously). Blast out everything with compressed air. Dust build up, insect nests, etc can wreak havoc but I don’t think this is the issue. I bet it’s the anode cap

    Pretty easy fix: clean the anode cap. Power it down, let it sit for a bit, look up how to discharge the tube (you basically bridge the anode to ground with something like a screwdriver. This is dangerous though bc very high voltage so watch a video to see what to actually do and use an insulated screwdriver, obviously)

    Once the anode cap is off clean it and the area around it with isopropyl. If the anode cap is damaged that poses a bigger challenge, you can sometimes source a replacement still or bodge repair them if not

    If it’s not the anode cap next check is flyback. This is easy to diagnose generally. Just look at it: does it have cracks, does it smell, burn marks, can you wiggle it/is it loose (power disconnected obviously) then that’s probably got some issues. Sourcing a replacement can be a pain

    Finally check grounding straps. Less likely but could be a factor

    If none of that works it’s probably arcing inside the tube. Sorry if that’s the case and enjoy it while it lasts, nothing lasts forever. This is probably not the case, maybe

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      This is dangerous though bc very high voltage

      This cannot be stressed enough. You can kill yourself poking around in an old monitor. It’s not even hard to do. There are thousands of volts in there, just waiting, even when it’s unplugged.

      All of this advice is not really wrong, but I would revise all of it to “leave the cover on, unless it’s giving you an issue, in which case take it to someone who knows enough about this stuff to mess around with it safely.”

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        Can’t learn if you don’t try!

        But seriously that person is correct you can die

        But also at the same time it’s a little overblown. My friends and I learned how to do this shit as dumbass 12-16 year olds without the support of the internet and we’re all still here. Research what you are doing, take your time, learn to discharge things safely. It’s not rocket science to discharge a capacitor or a tube. And with proper maintenance that monitor will run for at least another decade or two (but without it convergence issues and that arcing issue might worsen and take it out sooner rather than later)

        If you really don’t trust yourself to do it then find someone else though. There’s plenty of dorks out there who love tinkering with CRTs

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          Thank you both for the advice, this was exactly what I needed - I know absolutely nothing about CRT maintenance but I have tinkered inside plenty other electronics before.

          Before I do anything on it I’ll be doing all the research I can to ensure it’s as safe as possible and avoiding areas that can’t be discharged, and otherwise hunting within my friend circles for a CRT guy who can help me with it.

          Edit: this will all serve as a lesson for me taking on a more ambitious project I have, an iMac G3 that doesn’t post. Unsure at this stage if the CRT works or not in it, but I believe something is wrong with the PC’s PSU currently

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            Just keep in mind that pulling the anode cap of a crt is genuinely lethal electricity. Like you can get zapped pretty bad by a power supply cap (you should get in the habit of discharging these too) but generally unless they’re seriously big caps you won’t die. A crt can kill your tho so make sure you discharge it correctly. That’s why I say watch a video on how to do it, there are plenty of them and it’s much better to see what to do than follow a text description. Keep in mind that sometimes you have to discharge 2-3x (not usually but sometimes, and never hurts to be safe). You’ll see a spark and hear a pop. You can get a tool to discharge but an insulated screwdriver is all I ever used

            Macs of that era are a pain. Good luck. Check capacitors of course, replace battery, reset pmu. That era of mac you can get a service manual which is nice, get a meter and you can trace reference voltages thru power supply and logic board. Flyback is notorious in those imacs so look at that (same as above, check for burn, crack, loose, smell). 68kmla.org has a lot of great repair info on that era

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      The click and distortion is the auto degaussing. Probably happens because the power button is stuck down. You used to push and hold on some models to degauss.