• flora_explora@beehaw.org
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    11 months ago

    Maybe instead of just blindly ranting about a new technology we should focus on what’s important: the quality of the end product. Do we enjoy movies by real actors or by AI? Like, having some celebrities in place who are doing the acting is also a construct of society. We should be able to adapt and see what’s beneficial to us all. Well, although not really possible because capitalism doesn’t care about what people need or want. Who gets to be an well paid actor and who doesn’t is already a fucked up system deeply rooted in capitalism. I don’t care about the Attenboroughs or Bruce Willis’ of the world (to be clear: extraordinarily well paid people). I care about art that resonates with people and that gives us joy.

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      Why do you say this is blind ranting? I have listed reasons that I think the situation is unacceptable. My arguments are all against the talking points, not the poster. You are being very rude and making the discussion toxic.

      Responding to your enjoyment point:

      AI will replace human creators not exactly because it’s better, but because it’s cheaper and more scalable, which means they will be adopted in this neoliberal society.

      We are already seeing this in mobile games in China where developers use AI generated art.

      Is this the future you want?

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        Because it looks like blind ranting

        You’ve completely ignored all the people who have been replaced by automation and had to adapt as “oh that’s not important enough in my eyes to force companies to use humans”

        The future you want is far worse than the one you’re ranting about. Yours has only the wealthy and powerful enjoying protections from automation, while everyone else doesn’t matter (to you, based on your own arguments)

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          “ranting”? Really? I escaped Reddit because people were unnecessarily rude there. There is a way to discuss stuff without being nasty to each other like you and @flora_explora have been to @sculd.

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          I am disengaging. This is not helpful.

          I have commented many times in favour of labour rights over capital and I have clearly explained why I said what I said above. Check my comment history if you don’t believe it. Stop misinterpreting my intention.

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        I’m sorry if my comment sounded rude. Reading through your comments again, I cannot say that you were blindly ranting. However, what frustrated me was the complete rejection of a new technology you seem to propose. I think we do agree on many/most layers, I just want to preserve complexity in this discussion. I disagree that machines/AI are inherently bad and we should boycott it. I agree that how AI is implemented in our capitalist society will exacerbate and cause many problems. (But it will also fix many.)