• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    So Trump probably did it because you know more about his sexual proclivities than you know about Jay-Z’s sexual proclivities. Even though in both cases it was decades after the fact.

    And you think this is logical, do you?

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      19 days ago

      The difference is what we KNOW about each accused person. In one case we have quotes from the person himself admitting to sexual assault multiple times, along with dozens of accusations over time. In the other case we have no other accusations over a 30 year career in the industry from a person who doesn’t do anything to get headlines (unlike Kanye or Diddy) outside of make music. That doesn’t mean the other person hasn’t done bad things, but we know of absolutely no other instances. The person you’re replying to said they wouldn’t be surprised that the guy who admitted on tape of sexually assaulting women had raped a woman, and you’re complaining that they are hesitant to condemn a person of something extremely heinous with no evidence or previous examples of bad behavior?

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      19 days ago

      I didn’t say he probably did it. I said I wouldn’t be surprised. I said I don’t know the facts.

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          19 days ago

          I don’t want to. You could stop trying to avoid the topic at hand, but I understand that you find it very hard to ever admit to being wrong or making a mistake. You should try it some time, it actually feels good.

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              19 days ago

              Yes you are. If the allegation is false, then you’re actually the one who is victim-blaming right now. But that’s a possibility that you refuse to consider, because you seem to think it’s sexist to suspect one individual woman of making a false accusation. If it was a man filing a lawsuit that he got beat up or robbed 25 years ago at that same party, I would be equally skeptical of his claims.

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                  19 days ago

                  I never equated anything lmao. Are you incapable of responding with anything besides inane gotchas and straw men? Jfc

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                    19 days ago

                    You literally did. This is what you said:

                    If it was a man filing a lawsuit that he got beat up or robbed 25 years ago at that same party, I would be equally skeptical of his claims.

                    A man getting beaten and robbed vs. a child getting raped.

                    These things are not even close to comparable.

                    I mean you could have said a boy getting raped, but you didn’t. Apparently boy rape victims don’t make false claims 25 years later.