Reading about FOSS philosophy, degoogling, becoming against corporations, and now a full-blown woke communist (like Linus Torvalds)

  • anarchotaoist@links.hackliberty.org
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    1 year ago

    Linux and open source in general completely blow apart capitalist arguments that profit motive

    Wrong! Linux and open source only shows that the profit motive is not the only motive. One should broaden the definition of profit to encompass value in all its forms. ie A person can gain value from the satisfaction of DIY as it can be self-empowering. One can gain emotional value from sharing. It also invokes the law of reciprocation - value exchange but without a $ sign. The Open source ecosystem is also heavily funded by business who relies on open source components. It is a capital investment.

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      1 year ago

      The profit motive as used in capitalist sense strictly refers to financial gain. My whole point was that people do open source development for broader reasons than just base financial gain.

      And while companies do some funding, the ecosystem can exist without them perfectly fine.

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      1 year ago

      If the profit motive is not the only motive that drives innovation, as you just agreed, then it isn’t necessary, logically. And not sure why you would then go on to expand the definition of profit into meaninglessness after agreeing there are other motives.

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        1 year ago

        What? How the f do you transition from ‘not only’ to ‘isn’t necessary’? That is not logic - that is mental gymnastics with a triple back flip! Profit is the PRIMARY motivator! People wish to move away from discomfort more than anything else. Currency is the best way of alleviating discomfort!

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          1. If X is a necessary motive for Y, then in the absence of X, Y cannot happen.
          2. Innovation can happen in the absence of a profit motive.
          3. Therefore, the profit motive is not necessary for innovation.
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            1 year ago

            People can grow food in the absence of technology - but subsistence living is a hell of time!

            nb. Marxists still have no answer for the calculation problem.

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              1 year ago

              So I guess you agree that the profit motive isn’t necessary, because you moved to a completely unrelated point