• Bezier@suppo.fi
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      I find victim blaming counterproductive. It would be more helpful to discuss stronger consumer protection laws.

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          We shouldn’t blame the victims that society failed to properly educate. You’re right that if people intimately understood apple the way you probably do, they’d never buy an apple product. I would argue, however, that it’s a failing of education not an informed choice to be corporately cucked.

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              I hate apple with an intimacy and intensity you likely don’t, but the alternatives are either equally indefensible or difficult for average users and thus also anti-consumer.

              Just never buy an iMac, get a Mini or Studio with adequate RAM (you can add storage later) and a nice 4k monitor and you then get what you are paying for with some reliability.

              I note that you only denigrate, and are not supporting a viable alternative.

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                  Thunderbolt4 is perfectly usable in high bandwidth situations. WTF are you on about. Do you even compute?

                  Framework = Windows (consumer hostile in extremis) or Linux, fine for me and thee but user hostile for most.

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              The thing about rational actors, is when given the same information they should make the same choices. I would argue that they’re most likely, instead, just at the peak of mt. stupid

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      Ehh…iOS is arguably the most secure mobile operating system (excluding something like GrapheneOS) currently on the market.

      I don’t give a shit what brand you use, because I don’t have brand loyalty, but I can see valid reasons for why someone might want to use Apple Macbooks. Shitting on the consumer here does no good. All consumers deserve the same amount of consumer protection, regardless of which tech overlord they happen to purchase their hardware from.

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        I can see valid reasons for why someone might want to use Apple Macbooks

        I use one because I write apps for iOS and you can only do that on a Macbook. It doesn’t make me a fanboi.

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          By that rationale, we should be blaming those who picked a certain brand of hamburger meat for getting salmonella poisoning? I would think we’d want to push responsibility on the corporation and governmental oversight for change in food safety standards than mock those who got sick.

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              I mean, it’s not really a false dichotomy though? Your statements suggest that we assign fault/root cause to the consumer. I’m suggesting we assign root cause to the manufacturer/lack of regulation. If at the end of the day, it’s the consumer’s fault they chose a product without conducting a comprehensive quality review of all components within the product they purchase, then the action of pushing government regulation contradicts that. Funding regulation doesn’t do anything to fix consumer behavior; i.e. root cause. But maybe I misinterpreted your statements.

              As for your first statement, there are many problems with this reasoning. How can we reasonably expect consumers to perform comprehensive research studies on everything they purchase? If it turned out the specific manufacturer of Grade B wool that’s used for a certain sweater from a certain clothing brand is known for causing latent forms of cancer if worn for 2 years, that’s really on the consumer? C’mon now.

              Besides, in this specific case, it turned out to be a catastrophic latent failure. It wasn’t even possible for an informed consumer to have predicted this sort of catastrophic failure.

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      Not defending Apple for bad design, but this has happened before with displays from different manufacturers. The ribbon cable burning from a tight bend was also what killed my first LG Ultrawide.