They should still have the same rights as everyone else, and that shouldn’t be a controversial statement. But of course, as soon as they break the law, they should be punished. If they never break the law, they should have every right to be shitty people in public.
The government choosing what is morally right and what is morally wrong and punishing people for holding morally “wrong” beliefs is exactly what led us to be in the situation we are in right now in the US and China. Not everyone will ever agree on what is right or wrong. Make laws based on actions, not beliefs, and if anyone commits those actions, punish them for that.
They are saying that beliefs shouldn’t determine laws. That doesn’t make sense as beliefs are the foundations of laws. But dangerous beliefs like Nazism and Zionism ought to be illegal
They are saying that beliefs shouldn’t determine laws.
That’s not what I meant. I am saying you shouldn’t be arrested simply for holding a belief. Not until you commit an action such as assault, murder, torture, forced labor, or one of a million other things that Nazis do should you be arrested. Being racist shouldn’t be illegal. You should have the right to be a shitty person. But as soon as you hurt someone because of your racist beliefs, you should be arrested.
And that’s something that is worth being arrested over. But if someone claimed to be a Nazi and didn’t do any of that stuff, they shouldn’t be arrested just for associating with people who do those things. That my point. Because that’s a slippery slope. Some governments that I believe to be corrupt have already made beliefs illegal that I personally don’t believe should be. Specifically for holding a religious belief. And then they are rounding up people that I believe to be innocent and put them in forced labor camps. I believe this is too real of a possibility of a government has a history of doing this, what’s to say they won’t also do it to a belief you have? We can all agree Nazism is bad. But what if a government decides leftism is bad and all leftists should be arrested? Even if you have don’t nothing but sit at home and hold those beliefs, you might still be arrested.
They should still have the same rights as everyone else, and that shouldn’t be a controversial statement. But of course, as soon as they break the law, they should be punished. If they never break the law, they should have every right to be shitty people in public.
The government choosing what is morally right and what is morally wrong and punishing people for holding morally “wrong” beliefs is exactly what led us to be in the situation we are in right now in the US and China. Not everyone will ever agree on what is right or wrong. Make laws based on actions, not beliefs, and if anyone commits those actions, punish them for that.
Make laws based on actions but not beliefs fundamentally doesn’t make sense
Can you please elaborate on that? What beliefs do you think should be against the law?
They are saying that beliefs shouldn’t determine laws. That doesn’t make sense as beliefs are the foundations of laws. But dangerous beliefs like Nazism and Zionism ought to be illegal
That’s not what I meant. I am saying you shouldn’t be arrested simply for holding a belief. Not until you commit an action such as assault, murder, torture, forced labor, or one of a million other things that Nazis do should you be arrested. Being racist shouldn’t be illegal. You should have the right to be a shitty person. But as soon as you hurt someone because of your racist beliefs, you should be arrested.
And what benift could be derived from allowing Nazis free reign to convince others to kill Jewish people?
Convincing others to kill Jewish people is an action that can be (and currently is in most places) illegal. It’s conspiracy to murder.
You inherently are doing that if you are a Nazi. That’s one of the basis of Nazi ideology
And that’s something that is worth being arrested over. But if someone claimed to be a Nazi and didn’t do any of that stuff, they shouldn’t be arrested just for associating with people who do those things. That my point. Because that’s a slippery slope. Some governments that I believe to be corrupt have already made beliefs illegal that I personally don’t believe should be. Specifically for holding a religious belief. And then they are rounding up people that I believe to be innocent and put them in forced labor camps. I believe this is too real of a possibility of a government has a history of doing this, what’s to say they won’t also do it to a belief you have? We can all agree Nazism is bad. But what if a government decides leftism is bad and all leftists should be arrested? Even if you have don’t nothing but sit at home and hold those beliefs, you might still be arrested.