• JdW@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    If only there was a way to show the whole world in one simple example how Enshitification works.

    Google execs: Hold my beer!

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    5 months ago

    Just fucking ban AI. The solution is so simple. AI will NEVER be a good solution for anything and it’s just theft of information at its core. Fuck AI and fuck any company that uses the garbage.

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      5 months ago

      Ai is already hugely useful and will continue to get more useful as the tech evolves. I know that change upsets you but the reality is you were not born at the highpoint of humanity or the endpoint of history.

      It’s going to make the world better for a lot of people just like the internet did despite the endless assertions that it was a gmick, scam, and mistake from people who were likely your age now when the internet was emerging.

      The funniest thing to me is seeing this community which holds people like Aaron Swartz up as a hero demand the exact opposite of everything he believed in and fought for. Information wants to be free - you want to lock every piece in perpetual impenetrable copyright just to halt the development of tech.

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        5 months ago

        No one wants eternal copyright, but copyright does deserve to exist in a limited form. I always have advocated for a 14 or 17 year copyright term. But AI discards ANY copyright and takes not only copyrighted ideas, but random people’s posts (e.g. scraping posts from Lemmy) and from one’s own computer/device thanks to Microsoft or Google or Apple and integrates that into the AI hell. This is absolutely a terrible thing no matter your stance on copyright, and the fact that it abuses that to generate laughably wrong answers (and at times, dangerous answers, like ones seen that suggest people off themselves, or do something that is very harmful or lethal and present it as safe) and given that the whole thing is simply a piece-fitting algorithm (calling it “AI” is just laughable, really), it will NEVER – EVER – be able to improve to the point where it’s useful. That’s not how computers are able to work. We’ve spent decades trying to get self-driving working and it’s still just as dangerous and unreliable as it was on day one.

        It’s a thief and won’t ever get anything reliably correct. Plain and simple. The only recourse is to ban it.

  • flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    If you have to constantly manually intervene in what your automated solutions are doing, then it is probably not doing a very good job and it might be a good idea to go back to the drawing board.

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    5 months ago

    “Many of the examples we’ve seen have been uncommon queries,”

    Ah the good old “the problem is with the user not with our code” argument. The sign of a truly successful software maker.

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      5 months ago

      “We don’t understand. Why aren’t people simply searching for Taylor Swift”

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        5 months ago

        I tried, but it always comes up with pictures of airplanes for some reason.

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      I mean…I guess you could parahrase it that way. I took it more as “Look, you probably aren’t going to run into any weird answers.”. Which seems like a valid thing for them to try to convey.

      (That being said, fuck AI, fuck Google, fuck reddit.)

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        “I’m feeling depressed” is not an uncommon query under capitalism run amok. “One Reddit user recommends jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge” is not just a weird answer, it is a wholly irresponsible one.

        So, no, their response is not valid. It is entirely user-blaming in order to avoid culpability.

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          There are currently a lot of fake screenshots since it quickly became a meme, pretty sure this is one.

          Still a fuck up in general on their part.

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            Fair enough. I know how easy it is to fake a Google search with inspect element. I’ve been trying to verify for myself how shitty it is, but AI Overviews don’t seem to be showing up for me (I’ve done all the correct steps to enable it, but no searches generate results).

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    5 months ago

    I remember seeing a comment on here that said something along the lines of “for every dangerous or wrong response that goes public there’s probably 5, 10 or even 100 of those responses that only one person saw and may have treated as fact”

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      5 months ago

      that’s the point of phrasing the title that way, they get engagement from comments pointing it out

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    This thing is way too half baked to be in production. A day or two ago somebody asked Google how to deal with depression and the stupid AI recommended they jump off the Golden Gate Bridge because apparently some redditor had said that at some point. The answers are so hilariously wrong as to go beyond funny and into dangerous.

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      5 months ago

      Hopefully this pushes people into critical thinking, although I agree that being suicidal and getting such a suggestion is not the right time for that.

      “Yay! 1st of April has passed, now everything on the Internet is right again!”

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    Don’t worry, they’ll insert it all into captchas and make us label all their data soon.

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      5 months ago

      I still can’t figure out what captcha wants. When it tells me to select all squares with a bus, I can never get it right unless every square is a separate picture.

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    I looove how the people at Google are so dumb that they forgot that anything resembling real intelligence in ChatGPT is just cheap labor in Africa (Kenya if I remember correctly) picking good training data. So OpenAI, using an army of smart humans and lots of data built a computer program that sometimes looks smart hahaha.

    But the dumbasses in Google really drank the cool aid hahaha. They really believed that LLMs are magically smart so they feed it reddit garbage unfiltered hahahaha. Just from a PR perspective it must be a nigthmare for them, I really can’t understand what they were thinking here hahaha, is so pathetically dumb. Just goes to show that money can’t buy intelligence I guess.

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      5 months ago

      This really is the lemmy mentality summed up.

      Yes you’re smarter than Google and the only one who really understands ai… smh

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        5 months ago

        I’m sorry to be rude, but do you have anything to contribute here? I mean, I’m probably wrong in several points, that’s what happens when you are as opinionated as I am hahaha. But your comment is useless man, do better.