Update: we’re live @rimworldporn

Hello, I am the founder of /r/RimWorldporn. We would like to move away from Reddit and are looking for a good alternative. We are kind of like /r/earthporn, so we require hosting of large images. We’ve been around for about 4 1/2 years and have accumulated roughly 30GB of images. The main advantage of Reddit is that it hosts relatively high quality images, for free. Would kbin be a suitable platform for this? We could host our own instance, maybe even centralize image storing on it.

  • youronlyone
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    521 year ago
    • If you are asking if the kbin.social instance/server can handle your existing content and future content, you will have to talk to the admin.

    • If you are asking if the Kbin software can handle your content, sure, the software is only a software. Your data will rely on the capabilities of your hosting provider.

    • If you are asking if there are Kbin instances that can handle your content, you will have to contact them individually and find a way to struck some deal.

    You can check this list of the different servers/instances using the Kbin software –> https://fedidb.org/software/Kbin

    Or, you can host it on your own: https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core

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    • TheVillageGuyOP
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      51 year ago

      So, trying to understand, what would happen if a user from another instance, that doesn’t support, wants to look at mine, will they be redirected?

      • @Radicalized@lemmy.one
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        151 year ago

        They would be able to see, so long as your instance remains federated with theirs. Donations are volunteer only.

      • FaceDeer
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        121 year ago

        Sort of. When content is posted on instance A and someone is browsing on federated instance B, they’ll see the content from both A and B “mixed together” in their feed. They’ll be able to view it on instance A as if it was local content and post responses to comments and so forth normally. Someone over on instance B would then see their responses normally as well.

        This very thread is an example of this. The person you’re responding to, @youronlyone, is viewing this thread on the readit.buzz instance and posted his response over there. You saw his response on kbin.social and responded to it, and presumably he can now see your response to him over on readit.buzz. In theory this should all be seamless.

        In practice, the programs we’re using here are pretty new and are being hit with load they’ve never experienced before so there’s occasionally glitches. But that’s the goal, anyway, and I see no reason why it won’t be workable.

      • JonEFive
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        61 year ago

        The main issue seems to be your photo storage requirements. In terms of federation, your posts should appear normally for whatever platform you’re using to users who are on other instances so long as the instances don’t become defederated for some reason (a rarity in most cases unless an instance has a large number of spammers or bad users).

        To answer what I think you’re asking, yes, users on other instances would see the post and would be linked to the images stored on your “home” instance in most cases.

      • atocci
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        41 year ago

        By support, do you mean an instance not having the storage space to host your images? The content itself is only hosted on the instance you upload it to, so even if someone from a different instance that doesn’t have the space to store your content visits your magazine, they’ll still see everything just fine.

      • TGRush
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        11 year ago

        They’ll be able to look at it from their own instance, without the need to switch over to yours. They can also comment from their own instance. I for example am replying to you from https://forum.fail, whereas you seem to come from the https://kbin.social server/instance

        (federation can be a bit wonky, but generally this is true.)

  • LollerCorleone
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    Self-hosting your own instance might be the best way for you. You can surely use kbin for this. But I would recommend you to check out Pixelfed, which is focused on image sharing and is a part of the fediverse. A dedicated pixelfed would meet your needs really well.

    • JonEFive
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      201 year ago

      This is a good point, but pixelfed is more like Instagram so it depends a lot on the comment & conversation style that users prefer.

      • TheVillageGuyOP
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        51 year ago

        Yes I was going to say this, it doesn’t quite suit the needs of RimWorldPorn but does look like a great imgur alternative @LollerCorleone

        I would like to note that it did not like me signing up from firefox, then verifying my username using chrome. It would not let me in until I tried signing in from chrome and then verifying again. I recommend passing this on to the devs as this will likely be too complicated for a lot of users.

  • db0
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    30G is practically nothing. Any self-respecting VPS will give you that at the absolute minimum. My 7 Eur per month VPS gave me a 200G NVME

    • Damage
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      41 year ago

      Share the link please! VPS providers are kinda stingy with storage.

      • @danA
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        Check LowEndTalk; you should be able to find good deals there.

        I’ve got the specs of my own VPSes here in case you’re curious: https://d.sb/servers. Most of them are for https://dnstools.ws/ but I’ve got a few high storage ones. I can share pricing on any of them.

    • Bipta
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      21 year ago

      Of storage or bandwidth? 30gb of bandwidth is nothing, but storage? I’m sure not seeing that kind of storage for €7 month.

      • tboyer96
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        51 year ago

        Hetzner’s lowest tier ARM server (2 cores, 4GB RAM) comes with 40GB storage for 3.79 EUR, although those are only available at their Falkenstein (Germany) data center

      • @danA
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        It should be doable. I’ve got a VPS with HostHatch in Los Angeles, 120GB NVMe, 16GB RAM, for around $77/year. This is a proper VPS with good hardware (AMD EPYC and Samsung gen 4 enterprise NVMe and a good network - it’s not just something like Contabo. Here’s their most recent sales thread (sale is no longer active though: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/185742/celebrating-12-years-in-business/p1)

        My Lemmy and Mastodon instances are on a VPS that only costs $33/year and has 99GB space. It was a 9th birthday sale for a provider I use (GreenCloudVPS https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/181793/greencloud-9th-birthday-sale-9999-plans-99-giveaways/p1) where they had a limited amount of stock for a plan with 9 cores, 9GB RAM, 99GB NVMe for $99 / 3 years.

        Keep an eye on LowEndTalk… There’s a lot of good deals to be had, especially during Black Friday and Cyber Monday where there’s huge sales.

      • AshDene
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        21 year ago

        Backblaze for an example is $5/month/tb. 30gb is $0.15/month…

        S3 has a million tiers, ranging from $1/month/tb to $23/month/tb. $23/tb is $0.69 for 30gb. (the cheapest tiers add additional costs for get requests)

      • db0
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        11 year ago

        200g storage is like the lowest contabo gives you

  • Bipta
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    151 year ago

    I’m a big fan of RimWorld and I’m very impressed with kbin so far. It’s already improved a lot since 4-5 days ago. I say at least give it a shot.

    • TheVillageGuyOP
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      41 year ago

      Reddit has an upload limit of 20MB, so that’s our standard. Reddit does decompress, sometimes, it’s hard to put a finger on how and when, but usually the endresult is somewhere ~8MB. So if we can get 20MB non-recompressed images, we’d be well pleased.

    • Bipta
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      31 year ago

      They really are simply enormous. It’s like 5.5mb per image if I recall.

  • noodlejetski
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    maybe use a third party image hosting service instead (like vgy.me), and link to those in your posts? that used to be the norm on reddit for years before they’ve introduced image upload.

    • TheVillageGuyOP
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      Yes, reddit used imgur. Unfortunately they re-compress too aggressively and have a maximum res (iirc) so we prefer not to use them. We also want to keep it as simple as possible for RimWorld colonists, so if we can bypass a hosting platform that would be great

      • LollerCorleone
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        11 year ago

        It would be hard to find instances that will allow such huge image files unless you host it yourself. Do consider hosting images on vgy.me, which allows 20 MB per image, and then linking it to here to kbin, if you don’t want to host an instance.

  • nosyfpedestrian
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    30GB isn’t that much that data, so you could probably host it on a kbin or Lemmy instance. It will however cost money, where as Reddit does it for no fee. So, your community would have to chip in to host the VPS/Dedictated server to host your community with. The other way is to join another instance that has enough of an interest and capacity to host it for you, like kbin.social but it will also mean you give up the control of hosting and the rules that apply. You could also look for image hosters that allow for nsfw and have a stable reputation, might be better than trusting an instance to work out with your images.

    • Balssh
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      51 year ago

      Not sure if you made the nsfw reference because you thought of the other “rim world” or not but I found it funny.

  • bagonthebench
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    81 year ago

    I think that one thing that is worth considering is whether the plans you have are future proof. The Fediverse and open source model means that at least the discussions can be easily preserved.

    Open sourcing also means that the community can more easily design scripts to archive information.

    The image hosting is a separate issue, but again you should have a view towards the future and the possible preservation.

    It’s the same issue with individuals who use Google or Apple for cloud storage of their images. At some point the convenience needs to be considered in light of the lack of power for preservation.

    • TheVillageGuyOP
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      41 year ago

      Good point. That’s one of the reasons why I came here, we don’t want to be dependent on a commercial platform. I have safeguarded all the current renders, but all the comments / upvotes will be gone.

  • crilen
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    71 year ago

    Wish I knew about the rimworld subreddit before, Would have loved to see some big bases

  • brandonsh
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    61 year ago

    Self-hosting will give you the most control, and 30GB really isn’t all that much data in the grand scheme of things. I haven’t done much research into it yet, but I’ve also seen PixelFed listed as an option for image sharing on the fediverse.

    • roofuskit
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      51 year ago

      Pushing that much data out to hundreds of other instances might be a pain point though.

  • TheVillageGuyOP
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    41 year ago

    @tchambers this question is for everyone, I am tagging the owner as it may concern you as well. I have a few questions.

    First of all, this is looking great and I can imagine this platform is under a lot of stress due to the mass migration form Reddit. Keep up the good work!

    -Will it be possible to set the add type to photo only for /m/RimWorldPorn
    -What is the maximum allowed filesize/resolution?
    -I have almost 1000 renders on /r/reddit. Can those all be posted on /m/RimWorldPorn? (I have them stored locally)
    -Less important: would it be possible to use square thumbnails?

    thank you!

  • TheVillageGuyOP
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    41 year ago

    I am trying to upload images to /m/RimWorldPorn but it seems to fail on large images, giving either 503 errors or reloading the post image page.

    • TheVillageGuyOP
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      61 year ago

      If somebody could help me set it up that would be great, I am having trouble uploading to /m/RimWorldPorn

      • lixus98
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        11 year ago

        What are you trying to upload to it? Are you not able to create posts on it?

    • TheVillageGuyOP
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      21 year ago

      If somebody could help me set it up that would be great, I am having trouble uploading to /m/RimWorldPorn