There’s no law preventing someone from working around Denuvo.
Wouldn’t the DMCA do that?
they don’t even know who this person is lmao
You say that like it’s one person. 😏
good point, i wonder how many people are necessary to do this kind of stuff nowadays. though empress was doing it all by herself, right?
Yeah, and they’ve been kinda shitty in various forums, too. Can’t always be a beacon of hope, I guess.
That said, it seems to be a fairly lively scene, with many new teams popping in every month. I, for one, welcome these anonymous freedom fighters, no matter their number, gender, or background. 🤞🏼
yeah, i heard she had a bit of a cult going on. we actually had a bit of a drought for a while there, i’m just happy another serious, capable-looking scene handle came to do that work. make sure to seed, my friend 👍
Seed like you’re repopulating the planet!
Denuvo has done some homework, though. The filing lists a Discord user ID, a Reddit account and seven Steam profiles that it believes are linked to the cracker.
Denuvo hopes the information linked to these accounts will eventually unmask the cracker. Games have to be bought before they can be cracked, for example, and Steam purchases come with payment details.
I hope this person has good OPSEC.
FWIW, untold numbers of people share their sanitized Steam files for the greater good. Very few, if any, well-known “crackers” purchase all of the games they help do what it says on their tin.
This claim by Denuvo is not just asinine, but proves even further that they’re absolute idiots in their field. 🙄
For anyone unfamiliar, I strongly recommend Michael Bazzell’s book Extreme Privacy for a fantastic entry into this world. It covers much more than your typical OPSEC stuff, but it is thorough, well written, and fun to learn about.
unfortunately by this point a lot of the more ‘extreme’ things are outdated. the first few chapters remain a decent starting point.
a Discord user
If it does belong to voices38, then I pray they start a new life.
I see Denuvo in a game, I don’t buy or even pirate said game.
Same. Still waiting for Dragon’s Dogma 2 to remove Denuvo before I even watch a video of the game.
i’ll pirate it alright
Hey, ya can’t pirate it if buying isn’t owning, don’t forget. 🫡
yeah i can. what i can’t do is owning it by paying!
i could by pirating it though.
If it’s not a saleable good/product, it doesn’t qualify as theft when someone acquires it from a different source than one’s “store”, etc.
In a similar vein, the vast majority of “craft distillers” do nothing other than water down (aka “proofing”) the bulk distillate they’d purchased from Jack Daniels, et al, and the simple fact that doing so makes it a saleable product enables them to claim “Produced and bottled in (location)”, and people just slurp it down… 🤷🏼♂️
So?
Then don’t put that fucking malware in games and it won’t be bypassed, problem solved.
https://tech4gamers.com/denuvo-destroys-performance-optimization-games/
Honestly, no single malware tanks gaming performance anywhere near the levels that this shit does. It’s closer to the characteristics of game cancer.
I like voices38; they allowed me to finish AC Shadows because the story ending is hidden behind DLC
What in the holy dystopia did I just read?
Buy game, and buy ending too? 😭✋
Yup, the story doesn’t really finish at the end of the main questline but even the dlc ending felt kinda unfinished.
Gotta leave the door open for even more dlc if the corporate overlords decree it.
Choo choo! Here comes the DLC train! 🚂
It’s also the same format all the modern AC games have had. And the endings in the base game are fine, open-ended but more or less complete. All the dlc did was bring more context to a side character that wasn’t really relevant to the main story.
In fairness so do most games that launch with planned dlc. And you do get endings for each character that wrap up most plot points in the base game. All the “new” assassin’s creed games have done this, you get two or three endings in the base game and the dlcs will wrap up a few remaining threads not covered in the base. Base game endings are left a little open because it’s an ongoing game series but they absolutely wrap up the main plot, it’s a bit misleading to say the ending is locked behind dlc when it’s really just one ancillary plot thread that gets explored and resolved.
In fairness; STFU. Not fully fleshing out a game with planned intent on releasing doc can go to hell. Games were a hell of a lot more engaging when you had to put out effort to unlock characters or skins or weapons instead of buying them, and the end of an RPG wrapped everything up and felt complete.
Games were an order of magnitude smaller scale then. If you don’t like sprawling open world narratives with hundreds of hours of quality content and gameplay, don’t fuckin play em. Ubisoft and AC deserve shit for their hostile implementation of mtx and always online dumbfuckery. The games themselves are well made and well written. Have legitimate criticism instead of bullshit bandwagoning. The game was complete without the dlc. It was extra story, not main story. Eat my whole asshole. I already said that all games with planned post launch dlc pull this shit because they do, ac isn’t fuckin special or worse, arguably they’re better because the games are still quality in spite of the corporate fuckery.
Lol. Go screw yourself, shill. Some games are bigger than ever, but guess what? So is the number of people purchasing games. 25 years ago a game selling a million copies was a big deal and the biggest game of the year might break 2 million copies. Last year battlefield 6 sold 7 million copies in 3 days and 20 million copies total last year.
I bet you still get upset about gamergate.
Isn’t one of the mcguffins you’re chasing in the dlc? That counts as the actual ending being hidden to me. The rest is just arguments against planned dlc.
There’s macguffins left and right. The dlc in shadows is mostly around one characters past relationship that was tangential but not directly relative to any of the narrative elements in the base game.
Ok didnt want to say this because of spoilers but:
I was talking about the three red boxes; third is in the dlc
They’re still only tangentially related to the game’s primary revenge narrative. Naoe and Yasuke have complete arcs in the base game. I don’t disagree that it’s a bullshit business tactic and that shadows is probably the worst ac in that regard, but it does have multiple endings more or less on par with Odyssey or Valhalla in terms of wrapping up loose threads. It’s assassin’s creed, they all leave dozens of loose threads.
“bypassing drm” isn’t a crime any more than walking past someone on a sidewalk is.
it is in the USA, unfortunately.
https://www.jurisstate.blog/is-removing-drm-illegal#is-it-illegal-to-remove-drm-for-personal-use
But then, we also treat walking past someone on the sidewalk as a crime here as well, if that someone is a bored or angry cop.
US has ~0.4 % chance of the person living there.
That’s not the point. They want the real identity so they can charge them and ask for coorporation of the country they are in to extradite to the US
For illegal file sharing?? They didn’t murder anyone!
The only thing worse than murder is depriving shareholders of profit.
Read about Raymond Griffiths.
How’d you get to that number?
Their math is off by an order of magnitude. The US has about 4.25% of the Earth’s population, not 0.4%.
Total world population - US population over ✊ x pi
Edit: or do you mean the % formula?
“✊🏼 x pi” seems like a waste of good pi, and a real mess to clean up.
Its funny how the free market is only good when it benefits capitalists. The moment someone makes them lose money competition is over and its time to sue others
they are NOT losing money. I would never buy this garbage to begin with. I’d pirate it to try it, but once I saw how utter shit they are I wouldn’t even play the pirated copies.
they are not losing money
It’s denuvo suing, in a sense if the uncrackable game service they claim is now crackable, they will lose customers
but this is like advertising you are the best and then sue anyone that is better to maintain your position
They aren’t, but they have the understanding of literal children. They can’t process the fact that a pirated game isn’t a lost sale, because to them every single person on the planet wants what they have to offer, and if they get it any way OTHER than buying it outright at full price, CLEARLY it must be theft and people are targeting them specifically because what they have is so great.
I pirated Minecraft back in the beta days, decided I loved it, and eventually bought it (before notch went full mask off and the sale of mojang) had it not been for TPB, mojang would have had one less sale.
Same for several others. Hilariously, the only time I ever recieved a c&d was for a game I loved and then canceled the online order for when I got the letter two days later. I wanted to buy it, but the letter made up my mind that I was never giving them money again. Fuck em. Dead rising went downhill after the first one anyway so I didn’t miss much.
Executives view life as a zero-sum game.
TBF, every time some corpo fuckstick parrots “theft”, I’m reminded that none of them want any of us to dig into the age-old tradition of wage theft. That’s theft, and what they’re constantly whinging about plainly isn’t.
"Every year in this country (US), workers lose more money to wage theft than is lost to all forms of property crime (robberies, burglaries, larceny and motor vehicle theft) combined. Each year, well over $15 billion is stolen from workers by their employers; each year, less than 3% of that total is recovered for those same workers.
Employers steal their workers’ wages in a variety of ways:
- Paying less than the minimum wage
- Not paying overtime or misclassifying workers as “exempt” from overtime pay
- Not paying workers for all hours worked
- Taking illegal deductions from workers’ paychecks
- Not paying the prevailing wage in government contracting
- Automatically deducting for breaks that workers don’t get
- Stealing workers’ tips
- Not paying workers’ last paychecks…"
(More here.)
p.s. In 2025, that “$15 billion” was actually $50 billion+. 🤢🤕
Funny sentence I had to do a double-take on
As far as we know, this is the first time Denuvo has sued a cracker in a U.S. court
If voices38 has any sense, they’ve got a couple weeks to wipe all their data clean and consult some lawyers before going “:o oh no I didn’t realise I was being sued guess it’s not spoliation”. No way this gets anywhere on actual merit of facts.
If anyone else got curious: https://www.reddit.com/user/voices38/
Couldn’t Denuvo get a subpoena to have reddit unmask that account?
If voices did it right, all Reddit will have is a fake email and an IP that isn’t theirs. The IP would be a VPN or a compromised/hacked server. Behind that should be another VPN/hacked server, maybe then over tor, etc, etc, etc.
or from a country that doesn’t comply with US requests
Frankly, none of them should. 🤷🏼♂️
There has to be something to unmask first. You don’t need to supply personal data for a reddit account do you?
I suppose not, but they likely want IP addresses or some type of personal identifer. That’s also why they want the discord info too
not if they know what they are doing. and it looks like they do.
oh no, anyway
Some people never learn.
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They’re fine as long as they aren’t in the US, doesn’t even need to be somewhere like China or Russia, can’t be extradited on civil case(although they could probably refile locally if they live in a vassal state)
