• ???@lemmy.worldOP
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    9 months ago

    There’s nothing more ironic than this, and it reads like an onion post. Why should I be “banned” from “most forums” for this?

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      9 months ago

      I was talking about the twitter post the article references? Its almost like my first sentence has something to do with the second.

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        9 months ago

        Okay, I was confused because you said:

        Back in the day they would have straight up banned you from most forums for that.

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          9 months ago

          That is a pretty standard to phrase it that way. I cant make you invest more brainpower into reading my stupid comments but I cant downgrade my phrasing any more than this.

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            9 months ago

            Is this rudeness really called for? I’m just asking you to explain what you mean by this clearly ambiguous sentence. I’m not trying to imply anything, just trying to understand what you’re saying.

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              9 months ago

              They aren’t calling you stupid, they are calling themselves stupid.

              And “you” is very common to use in English to mean “people in general”.

              If you are a non-native speaker, it might be misinterpreted.

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                9 months ago

                Thanks, even though I’m a non-native speaker with a degree in English and another in a linguistics-related field, I don’t think this was the case. Sentences can be ambiguous, all they had to do was explain that instead of being rude. They said “banned you from most forums” and I’m somehow supposed to guess they meant news rooms or journalist forums? And also somehow supposed to guess that “banned” refers to banning a journalist or from Twitter or something?

                I asked my partner who’s a native speaker and they agreed that it sounded off and was unclear. They also didn’t think it made sense. So I doubt it has anything to do with my level of English /:

                PS: coupled with the fact that this perfectly Not The Onion post is being downvoted to hell plus that sentence made it more confusing. When I write shit online, I try to avoid using “you” when giving examples because I know how easily it can be misinterpreted. It’s not being a “non-native”, it’s just being a good writer. Sorry not sorry.

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                  9 months ago

                  I don’t have a degree in English, and I’m not a native speaker, but I understand and speak at a native level having lived in America for a while and I was married to an American for years.

                  I understood given the context and idiomatic use of “you” that they meant people in general. Clear as day.

                  Maybe having a degree isn’t a factor in this case, given you don’t seem to realize “sorry not sorry” makes you come off pretty obnoxious. Maybe being a native speaker, namely your partner, doesn’t have to be a factor either. Some people can’t read clues like that. People with Asperger’s and such. It’s common. These people read the words separately and piece them together, rather than a coherent unit of information.

                  Point is, they weren’t trying to be rude. Trust me.

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                    9 months ago

                    Maybe it was an ambiguous sentence? Have you heard of those? Maybe it was a sentence capable of being read in several ways, but your speculation was instead about my English level?

                    But no no, it must be that I’m not that good at English and that my partner has Asperger’s! This is hilarious because he is literally a writer. What would you like to speculate about diagnosing us with next?

                    I’m sure you meant well but what you wrote came off the way this here is coming off now.

                    PS: I doubt Asperger’s is even that common, and I doubt it gives people reading comprehension issues.

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              I think this poster is probably hurt that you didn’t carefully read what they wrote, and are making them repeat themselves.

              Some might even class it as rude to engage in a conversation without reading carefully. If you had read carefully, you would not be in any danger of thinking that you are being accused of doing something worthy of that ban.

              It is clear that the one who’d get banned is the author of the Jerusalem Post article.

              Again, you were rude first but failing to read carefully, and the continuing to belabor the point after having it explained to you.

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                9 months ago

                I read carefully. I asked another person. I then asked OP what they mean, in a clear way that shows where I was confused. Then I explained again what my confusion was.

                Your point is not convincing.