How many decades does this restitution take to actually make criminally vile behavior stop? I’m no spring chicken and I’ve been waiting for a long time for a train, it seems, that is just not coming.
You are at the wrong station.
Please folks, don’t confuse justice with policing, or crime prevention.
Restitution, and in general a ‘fixing the wrongs’ approach to justice, is not about prevention, it is about clean up and repairs. How that is done is a whole discussion about details, but we are discussing principles at the moment.
Prevention: a healthy neighbourhood with embedded nurses, social workers, and active mental health services could have caught this kind of shit. Functional education system would have caught it. Also: see economics for causes, aka material conditions.
Punishment: well cruelty is the point, isn’t it? And you get to participate without guilt.
I don’t believe them getting shanked will deter or prevent other child abusers in any way. Different issue.
…a healthy neighbourhood with embedded nurses, social workers, and active mental health services could have caught this kind of shit…
Oh, absolutely, it could have. Here’s the rub… If the child was so bad as to be almost non-verbal, the parents could have accessed support. From someone that’s got handicaped family getting support (and it’s shit, TBH, but it’s there), the reality is there ARE systems in place to help - regardless of how mediocre they are - they can help. OR they could have put the child into foster care or just left the kid at a hospital.
This was criminal negligence and raging indifference to the suffering of a child.
I’d love for a social support structure to be fully funded and everyone is vested in making it work, alas the drive to create such a thing is one that the USA has been pushing aside for decades in pursuit of the next quarterly report on earnings.
The economics of America has to change first. That we are at the end stage of capitalism where it is starting to eat itself, may be the leverage point on which change is built, but I do not know. I think it’s going to take a few more decades as those sitting atop the corporate capitalist machine won’t go down without a fight.
You are at the wrong station.
Please folks, don’t confuse justice with policing, or crime prevention.
Restitution, and in general a ‘fixing the wrongs’ approach to justice, is not about prevention, it is about clean up and repairs. How that is done is a whole discussion about details, but we are discussing principles at the moment.
Prevention: a healthy neighbourhood with embedded nurses, social workers, and active mental health services could have caught this kind of shit. Functional education system would have caught it. Also: see economics for causes, aka material conditions.
Punishment: well cruelty is the point, isn’t it? And you get to participate without guilt.
I don’t believe them getting shanked will deter or prevent other child abusers in any way. Different issue.
Oh, absolutely, it could have. Here’s the rub… If the child was so bad as to be almost non-verbal, the parents could have accessed support. From someone that’s got handicaped family getting support (and it’s shit, TBH, but it’s there), the reality is there ARE systems in place to help - regardless of how mediocre they are - they can help. OR they could have put the child into foster care or just left the kid at a hospital.
This was criminal negligence and raging indifference to the suffering of a child.
I’d love for a social support structure to be fully funded and everyone is vested in making it work, alas the drive to create such a thing is one that the USA has been pushing aside for decades in pursuit of the next quarterly report on earnings.
The economics of America has to change first. That we are at the end stage of capitalism where it is starting to eat itself, may be the leverage point on which change is built, but I do not know. I think it’s going to take a few more decades as those sitting atop the corporate capitalist machine won’t go down without a fight.