Thought one: Did they bother to legislate how cash transactions will work without it?
Thought two: dollars should just become cents. Then we can go back to the days of “ten candies for a penny” that my grandma always talks about and maybe old people will see how unaffordable things really are
Thought one: Did they bother to legislate how cash transactions will work without it?
Congress did not. Apparently it causes issues in some states.
In some states and cities, it is illegal to round up a transaction to the nearest nickel or dime because doing so would run afoul of laws that are supposed to place cash customers and debit and credit card customers on an equal playing field when it comes to item costs. So, to avoid lawsuits, retailers are rounding down.
It’s also silly because a bill was introduced in April to answer this question, but it’s just sitting around. You know how busy Congress is nowadays. (Also similar bills have come up in the past, but also just sat around and nothing became of them.)
If you’ll pardon my insanity for a moment, there is something to be said for the Executive branch making a decision that the Legislative branch refused to make. The Legislative have ceded so much power to the Executive that they should be embarrassed. I wish this was front page news about political overreach. Instead it’s just, “Yeah, everyone knows Congress can’t do shit.”
… issues that would not be rendered moot by the supremacy clause of the Constitution!? If Congress passes a law saying that because the federal currency will no longer include a $0.01 denomination, all cash transactions must be (either rounded to the nearest $0.05, or must have change values in multiples of $0.05), states are obliged to follow this law. As it is, the mint will just stop making a kind of money, leaving states in the lurch, and potentially inviting lawsuits from state attorneys general.
Exactly! TBH, I’m surprised. The GOP’s God King said, “make it so,” and they haven’t done his bidding. The one time their spineless adherence to anything Trump wants could’ve actually been popular, and we get nothing. An astonishing level of incompetence! For shits and giggles, a Democrat should push for the bill to be taken up, just to watch the GOP leadership shoot it down because they can’t take credit for it. An official “not like that.”
That’s an easy bipartisan win. I’m not against having a few committee’s review it and getting everything in order… But six plus months for something this simple?!
The “must pass” legislation gets slapped together over a weekend and everyone complains that they don’t get time to read it. They post all over social media a towering bill full of last minute margin changes.
But no one has taken time to move forward a two page pamphlet in six months?
We’re long overdue for an Amendment to bar one branch from ceding its power to another. Biggest catch to that is that it may reinforce the recent ruling on deference. Someone like Trump writing detailed regulations is about as scary as Congress doing it.
Honestly the entire districting system should be dropped in favor of statewide party list voting.
Gerrymandering has ensured that every district is like a dick shaped blob on every map and your local rep might live further from you than the nearest 3 other reps.
Personally I kinda wish that power that Congress refuses to wield shouldn’t be pushable to the executive but instead decays back to the states. Basically cedeing power to the presidency should be effectively impossible, but power decaying back to the states should be the norm.
Basically cedeing power to the presidency should be effectively impossible, but power decaying back to the states should be the norm.
I can’t wait for the yanks to rub in my face that “AcKsHuAlLy, MeDiCaL mEtH iS lEgAl In WeSt ViRgInIa” while ignoring that women initiating divorce is illegal in idaho.
EDIT: maybe I fucked it up, but it’s already intolerable when shitheads brag about “The USA has legal weed” when it’s in certain states with many restrictions, and ignore all the shit that other states ban, like abortion. Or, permit, like child marriage.
Thought one: Did they bother to legislate how cash transactions will work without it?
Thought two: dollars should just become cents. Then we can go back to the days of “ten candies for a penny” that my grandma always talks about and maybe old people will see how unaffordable things really are
Congress did not. Apparently it causes issues in some states.
Per AP
It’s also silly because a bill was introduced in April to answer this question, but it’s just sitting around. You know how busy Congress is nowadays. (Also similar bills have come up in the past, but also just sat around and nothing became of them.)
If you’ll pardon my insanity for a moment, there is something to be said for the Executive branch making a decision that the Legislative branch refused to make. The Legislative have ceded so much power to the Executive that they should be embarrassed. I wish this was front page news about political overreach. Instead it’s just, “Yeah, everyone knows Congress can’t do shit.”
… issues that would not be rendered moot by the supremacy clause of the Constitution!? If Congress passes a law saying that because the federal currency will no longer include a $0.01 denomination, all cash transactions must be (either rounded to the nearest $0.05, or must have change values in multiples of $0.05), states are obliged to follow this law. As it is, the mint will just stop making a kind of money, leaving states in the lurch, and potentially inviting lawsuits from state attorneys general.
Yes, they would be rendered moot IF (and hopefully when) Congress passes a law.
The last penny was minted today. Companies have already begun to struggle with a lack of pennies.
This isn’t a problem that will happen if Congress does nothing. This is a problem that is happening because Congress did nothing.
Exactly! TBH, I’m surprised. The GOP’s God King said, “make it so,” and they haven’t done his bidding. The one time their spineless adherence to anything Trump wants could’ve actually been popular, and we get nothing. An astonishing level of incompetence! For shits and giggles, a Democrat should push for the bill to be taken up, just to watch the GOP leadership shoot it down because they can’t take credit for it. An official “not like that.”
That’s the crazy part, they did, back in April!
https://mcclain.house.gov/2025/4/mcclain-garcia-lummis-gillibrand-introduce-bipartisan-bill-to-end-penny-production
Two US House members, one Democrat and one Republican, and two US Senators, one Democrat and one Republican introduced the bill.
The bill isn’t even that long, https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/3074/text
That’s an easy bipartisan win. I’m not against having a few committee’s review it and getting everything in order… But six plus months for something this simple?!
The “must pass” legislation gets slapped together over a weekend and everyone complains that they don’t get time to read it. They post all over social media a towering bill full of last minute margin changes.
But no one has taken time to move forward a two page pamphlet in six months?
It’s truly mind boggling.
We’re long overdue for an Amendment to bar one branch from ceding its power to another. Biggest catch to that is that it may reinforce the recent ruling on deference. Someone like Trump writing detailed regulations is about as scary as Congress doing it.
Honestly the entire districting system should be dropped in favor of statewide party list voting.
Gerrymandering has ensured that every district is like a dick shaped blob on every map and your local rep might live further from you than the nearest 3 other reps.
Personally I kinda wish that power that Congress refuses to wield shouldn’t be pushable to the executive but instead decays back to the states. Basically cedeing power to the presidency should be effectively impossible, but power decaying back to the states should be the norm.
I can’t wait for the yanks to rub in my face that “AcKsHuAlLy, MeDiCaL mEtH iS lEgAl In WeSt ViRgInIa” while ignoring that women initiating divorce is illegal in idaho.
EDIT: maybe I fucked it up, but it’s already intolerable when shitheads brag about “The USA has legal weed” when it’s in certain states with many restrictions, and ignore all the shit that other states ban, like abortion. Or, permit, like child marriage.
Of course not, they will leave it to the free (unregulated) market.
Funnily enough, Canada has not had pennies for a while. (Uh, it’s funny because you’re on lemmy.ca)
In Canada, cash transactions round to the nearest nickel (so $1.03 becomes $1.05, and $1.02 becomes $1.00).
Yes, I know this. :)
That’s what prompted my question. That was legislated so that stores couldn’t pick their own way of doing it.
Ah, great point!