They are planning another rally on Oct 19. Various locations have already announced counter rallies.
It is very important you turn up and bring along friends. If you can’t make it, then make sure that other people do. Not just social media posts either.
These Nazi-run rallies are particularly dangerous because the capitalise on a real, valid anger towards our government. If we allow them to grow unchallenged, bigots will continue to be embolded. There were many reports of people being opportunisticly harassed after last rally, so if we don’t outnumber them, they’ll do that again. If you don’t help your community to squash this, it will grow. We’re at a great moment where we can still stop this peacefully. Seize this moment while we have it.
Don’t just show up, bring along friends. And if you see me handing out fliers for the counter rally, tell me you’re bringing along friends! We can all use a smile :)
There were many reports of people being opportunisticly harassed after last rally
I would daresay what happened at Camp Sovereignty was a bit more than mere harassment.
Yes but I wasn’t talking about that. I was referring to the many smaller cases of individuals or small groups opportunistically harassing people on public transport, in parks, etc., which can easily be prevented just by having more people around to remove that opportunity. Simply attending the counter rally helps.
If we’re aiming to prevent an premeditated gang of dozens from going out of their way to terrorise a peaceful camp, we’ll need an organised force with fighting experience, or an even larger group able to mobilise rapidly. That’s absolutely possible, we saw that Melbourne has the roots for building such a force, but it’s a tougher challenge which involves more than just the regular public showing up.
It’s like Reclaim Australia and all the other attempts of fascists to try and host nationalist anti-immigration rallies. We gave them an inch. Now they’ll try and make these happen every month.
They are planning another rally on Oct 19. Various locations have already announced counter rallies.
I heard on the grapevine that PAG have agreed to join the Sydney counterrally this time instead of holding their Palestine march separately. Last time was a letdown when they split the counterprotest.
A couple of coworkers were talking at the pub about the nazis at the March for Australia so I’ll try and convince them to come along this time.
A couple of coworkers were talking at the pub about the nazis at the March for Australia so I’ll try and convince them to come along this time.
Good luck! We need everyone we can get. And with a bit of luck, the social media effect grows exponentially as friends tell friends to tell friends, just like with the March for Humanity.
Reclaim Australia
Amusingly, and this might be partly because on my screen “fascists” lined up just below it, at first I read this as "Racists Australia’.
It’s pretty telling that the only way they can get support in respectable numbers is by lying about who they are and generally obfuscating the whole thing. It’s not the W they would have everyone believe. But these incels are so terminally online that they think trolling everybody is the same as winning.
It’s pretty telling that the only way they can get support in respectable numbers is by lying about who they are and generally obfuscating the whole thing
That is literally all conservatism has ever been, since inception.
“Hey proles! Turns out the kings and queens were actually really cool. They were better than you. You should worship their inbred asses.”
It will be interesting to see how this con pans out. Even fellow NSN neo-Nazis like JoeI Davis have cried on podcast about how the attack on Camp Sovereignty “made them look like” unhinged violent thugs. There were various degrees of rejection like booing and leaving when open Nazis took the microphone at various March for Australia rallies and spouted their junk (among others supporting them). The (former) Adelaide March for Australia organiser is openly calling out the NSN. The Freedom cookers’ “Australia Unites” rallies last weekend explicitly stated on their website: “NEO NAZIS ARE NOT WELCOME -NO RACISM OR ANY ACTS OF HATE OR VIOLENCE WILL BE TOLERATED IN ANY CAPACITY.” It’s clear that lots of attendees felt like their movement was “hijacked” by Nazis. Now, the truth is that it was Nazis running it the whole time, but nonetheless they made their target audience feel cheated with their subversive tactics and their shameless tactlessness. They’ve alienated the broader “patriotic” nationalist movement by conning them.
As said in the article, “Jordan McSwiney says the marches drew crowds only because most people hadn’t realised who was really involved,” and it seems like they no longer have that plausible deniability outside of the few groups in certain news filter bubbles.
Also, what the heck is up with this bit:
Later, the NSN railed against the lead Brisbane organiser for allegedly breaking a “deal” that Hersant could speak officially to the crowd. The organiser, who goes by “Bender” online and has previously posted neo-Nazi content, said he and his family were now receiving serious threats to “love the NSN”– or else.
I’ve seen screencaps of the social media account of that “Bender” account where they have an avatar profile picture of a black sun Sonnenrad, a well-known neo-Nazi symbol. So I’m surprised to see them being bullied by the cult. I forgot how much these idiots love infighting.
We’re not Nazis we’re Mazis; it’s completely different and only a little exactly the same
Michael Rosen - Facsism: (video reading)
I sometimes fear that people think that fascism arrives in fancy dress worn by grotesques and monsters as played out in endless re-runs of the Nazis. Fascism arrives as your friend. It will restore your honour, make you feel proud, protect your house, give you a job, clean up the neighbourhood, remind you of how great you once were, clear out the venal and the corrupt, remove anything you feel is unlike you... It doesn't walk in saying, "Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution."
What a bunch of mouth breathers
might have been the most confusing march i’ve ever seen, a bunch of well intending people with a bunch of angry confused nutters
the only thing I got from it was that there’s a decent amount of people who want immigration numbers reduced
“Well intending people”?
No one that went to those marches was ‘well intentioned’. The people who went to these marches didn’t go because of any reason based in fact. They went because things are shit for the middle and lower class, but it’s easier to blame foreigners than to hold corporations and the rich to account. The people who marched are doughy brained racists, who were stupid enough to go to a rally that fascists attended, and then cheer them on.
Immigration numbers have been on the decline for the last 18 months after the expected post-Covid jump. This is coming from the Australian Bureau of Staristics: https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/population/national-state-and-territory-population/mar-2025 Immigration is a boost to our economy, and restrictions on the type of workers who are immigrating already exist to boost the workforces that white Australians are leaving fallow.
My aunt went to the local march. My aunt who is married to my uncle, the first generation immigrant. But he obviously doesn’t count because he was born in Ireland. The fascists may have put some things in her head that day, but she went to the march of her own volition.
It was confusing for good reason. As the article explains, and as people here were saying before the rally, the marches were astroturfed by the NSN, from the start. It’s unfortunate that so many people bought into their trick, and it’s good to see many of the well-intentioned people had the guts to stand up once they realised they were being conned.
The NSN thought they could draw people into their tent by having half of them pretend to be “everyday Aussies” and by appealing to the cookers in the freedom movement, but at the end of the day, even cookers know that Nazis need to be forced out. Good on the people there who tried, but ultimately, anyone who goes to the next March for Australia now that they know the NSN are real, coordinated, dodgy manipulators and welcomed back by the MfA organisers… this time there aren’t any excuses.
and it’s good to see many of the well-intentioned people had the guts to stand up once they realised they were being conned.
Did they? Sure, a few of the organisers tried to control things on the day, but almost all of the commentary I have seen (admittedly) online in response from people who attended has been either defence or deflection. My impression is that the overwhelming response was heads in the sand and pretend the neo-Nazis “hijacked” the rallies, even though there was so much evidence right from the start that disproved this argument.
Tom Tanuki had a great video detailing some speakers and attendees standing up to them, along with pointing out their plain clothes stooges manufacturing fake support, starting using the same chants in each state, and their other manipulation tactics. The video has been taken down by a copyright claim (edit: see reply!). I also know a couple of socialists who were present in the rallies to provide updates, who felt the crowd was a 50/50 split for support and rejection when the Nazi speaker got the mic. And after seeing horrible interpretations of the event like that from Red Flag (basically imagining every single person there was a white middle-class lost cause), I emphasise that many people there were tricked and didn’t just roll over or use their megaphone like Katters.
But yes. You’re right. Head in the sand has been something I’ve seen plenty of too, and this time they have no “ignorance” excuse. Nazis ran the major rallies. We weren’t just calling people ‘nazis’ as a scary strawman, they were real, they controlled the rallies, and they are planning to do it again.
Here’s a mirror of Tom Tanuki’s video:
How neo-Nazis captured the March for AustraliaThanks mate. Tagging @Ilandar@lemmy.today
Thank you!
