To me it is about gaslighting and arguing for the sake of arguing. We’ve long been in this realm of society now where nobody wants facts or truths, they just want you to be wrong. I have before, cited resources in arguments I’ve shamefully invested in, knowing that it will not matter in the end. Because I’m still going to be called a liar, I’m still going to be subjected to insults and be baited and gaslit.
And the same people still turn around and expect credible sources to be provided to them? Why ask when you don’t care?
It is one thing for someone to make outrageous, blatant and unclaimed arguments than it is another who talks of something and it has a resemblance of truth to it.
Just ignore them or dont engage to begin with. Nothing but cold hard reality and impersonal unresponsive systems/actors can teach them otherwise cuz their minds and hearts are not open. They only care and understand that which directly affects them at the exact moment it becomes real to and for them and they cannot escape having to face concrete, material and often lifestyle destroying 'quences. Theres just no other way, they are like the kind of dug in alcoholic who has to hit rock bottom in order for them to fathom what can be otherwise safely and easily perceived from the mountain top upon which they previously resided
They only have power if you grant them it by even engaging, and secondarily when you play by their rules the moment they are allowed to move goalposts or respond by posing a new avenue rather than answering a direct question you should reciprocally get an answer to and to your satisfaction it has been asked and answered. If they get away with anything, they will continue to do what works for them until they are forcefully stopped and sufficiently deterred such that they are holding their dick in their hand and it starts cutting into their money, time, satisfaction, or feeling of well-being