• gigachad@piefed.social
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    1 day ago

    Yes but open source development for Android is made harder and harder every year by google, just look at the ongoing sideloading discussion. A working real Linux based OS for phones would be the holy grail. LineageOS is great and I am using it, but for real privacy you need a lot more.

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      19 hours ago

      Linux doesn’t really hold a torch to Lineage OS or Android.

      Lineage OS is great since they projects maintains foss replacements for the Google proprietary ones. It is still based on up stream AOSP so you get modern Android without all the google junk. The privacy, security and simplicity of Android is really top notch.

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        18 hours ago

        I am well aware where LineageOS stands against Linux. But my point still stands - LineageOS has no focus on privacy and AOSP is under threat, again.

        LineageOS without “Google junk” is useless for 95% of the userbase, as they miss out very basic features Google outsourced of AOSP, such as Network Location Provider, Push Notifications or even an app store. I am not even talking about Play Integrity.

        The privacy, security and simplicity of Android is really top notch.

        • LineageOS is not private, even if it sends way less data home than Android (if you don’t sideload Play Services)
        • depending on your threat level an unlocked bootloader is not what I would call “top notch secure”
        • getting around a lot of the issues I talked about with extra stuff like microg, DNS blocking, Aurora Store etc. is not what I would call simple

        maintains foss replacements for the Google proprietary ones

        Not true, see Play Services

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          What makes you think that Linux is some how going to fix all of those issues? I’m not sure what you are expecting Linux to do. “Linux” is pretty broad and can mean many different things.

          I’m not against mobile Linux like Postmarket OS. However, I’ve yet to see anything that is even close to competing with Android. I think we need a entirely new platform that has a ecosystem designed for portable hassle free devices. The biggest issue with a new ecosystem is funding which is why I think it makes sense to base off of AOSP.

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            10 hours ago

            Agreed, I see no way Linux phones become a viable alternative in the near future. Tbh, it is extraordinary to expect Linux on phones when it only has small adoption in desktop space - how will it be ready for phones, for which no Linux apps have been developed? Coupled with the funding and hardware compatibility, I just don’t see Linux phones.