• NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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    2 days ago

    Ignoring the sexism bordering on mild misogyny:

    We’ve literally seen how this plays out. Walz calls trump “weird”. fuckface calls for the murder of Kamala. “Both sides traded barbs”.

    The vast majority of christians don’t actually hate The Gays. They insist “I don’t approve of your lifestyle but I tolerate you”/“I don’t respect or tolerate you but I also don’t want to consider myself a bigot”. It is why “bathroom bans” and the like are so popular. They are a direct attack on people’s very self and a way to remove their ability to function in society but they also don’t immediately seem like hate unless you think for even a few seconds.

    But once The Gays are outright attacking christianity? Guess what? “Both sides traded barbs” becomes “They are literally coming to destroy your beliefs” and it is a literal holy war.

    Or, to go back to your sexism: People love the idea of a victim standing up for themselves. When they do? Suddenly it just becomes “they are both a mess” or “they deserve each other” rather than “She finally struck back after her third visit to the emergency room”.

    Everyone wants to act. Not acting is the definition of helplessness. But it is also worth understanding that retaliation is a thing. The call of duty generation loves the idea of being heroic guerilla fighters who scream “wildcats” every five seconds. But it is worth looking at the actual “stay behind armies” and how so much of their equipment and doctrine was designed around resistance without ever pushing things far enough to lead to genocide and eradication. Whether that would have been successful is a very controversial topic but… that is the idea.

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      1 day ago

      Ignoring the sexism bordering on mild misogyny:

      Lol. Ok Stretch Armstrong.

      The vast majority of christians don’t actually hate The Gays.

      If you vote to hurt someone, you hate them. This isn’t complicated.

      But once The Gays are outright attacking christianity? Guess what? “Both sides traded barbs” becomes “They are literally coming to destroy your beliefs” and it is a literal holy war.

      Shit. So you’re saying if we just left the Nazis alone they would have tolerated the Jews? Lol. I like how you consider direct Christian attacks on LGBTQ people as “tolerance”. They are already actively degrading the quality of life of LGBTQ people. Do you expect people to just sit by and be subjugated in the hopes that they won’t be subjugated harder if they do something?

      to go back to your sexism

      Oof. You are trying so hard.

      People love the idea of a victim standing up for themselves. When they do? Suddenly it just becomes “they are both a mess”

      What planet do you live on? When a battered housewife (oh no I’m a sexist now) stands up for herself, I don’t think she’s a mess. What kind of fucked up logic is that? I’m happy for her.

      But it is also worth understanding that retaliation is a thing.

      Yes, it’s a good thing when you are being oppressed. You are typing lots of words in defense of people not defending themselves. I’m not sure what’s wrong with your brain, but you should fix it or find someone that can help you fix it.