• NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip
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    2 days ago

    Wait, this seems completely backwards.

    Windows: Here is some forum post to some rando’s software. SomeShit.exe. Should I install it?

    As opposed to Linux: I look in the category of the software I am interested in, click install.

    And as far as breaking… I use linux because it doesn’t break. I don’t have time for windows bullshit.

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      1 day ago

      I feel like clearly everyone here is smarter than me or something.

      I’ve been running Kubuntu for a while and here is a recent anecdote and you can tell me if I’m just an idiot. I went to install an application so opened up the software store. After installing I found out it was an out of date version of the software. I went to the companies site and they recommended a flatpak install. Kubuntu doesn’t have flatpak enabled by default, so I have to lookup how to install flatpak and could then install the flatpak. However another piece of software recommends using the apt install, and another the Kubuntu store is fine. All of this is okay, but now there are three different ways I have to manage my software.

      Its fine for me, but if that’s really the case, you’ll loose the average user at using the command line to install flatpak.

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        average user at using the command line to install flatpak.

        Kubuntu require you to use a command line to get flatpaks? Usually it is just a toggle in a package manager. I think Fedora is on by default.

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          I just looked it up again and it seems like they require you run a command in the console to enable flatpak. I’m not sure if it’s cause they use snaps, given it’s an Ubuntu derivative. I suspect as flatpak continues to win out it’ll all tend that way.

          However, the fact this its even a discussion is kinda my point.

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            21 hours ago

            So I wanted to see for myself.

            Ubuntu… ugg the worst of all distros. I had issues with it since it came out. I never got why it took off. Although I did like their fonts, colors, and Unity. (Even as a KDE person).

            So my experience: download Kubuntu. Install. Click update. It of course throws an error. I ignore it and click update again. This time it succeeds but it seemed like forever. Why is that? I can’t stress this enough: Nearly everytime I have tried to work with Ubuntu the very first thing it does is throw an error. Never a good look.

            Anyways: Click on software center. Go to settings. Click enable Flatpack. Click on Flatpack add Flathub as a repository. (That step is a little confusing actually, but it is there). Search for Strawberry music player: it offers to add it from Flatpak.

            No command line ever used.

            The confusion sometimes comes from looking up info, which will lead to the command line. Becuase command line is always the easiest way to share information. Same thing with windows, when I go to fix stuff, they offer powershell. A dozen gui steps and pictures reduced to a single line.

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              21 hours ago

              Wow! I appreciate your thoroughness.

              After hearing you found it in a setting I went looking around again, and while I couldn’t find any official Kubuntu documentation, it does seem like Flathub has a setup guide that mentions it as a setting config.

              Also, I generally lean towards Ubuntu as most support I find online leans Debian, but curious what distro you use.

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                20 hours ago

                In the past: Redhat, then Mostly Debian or Debian derivatives. Mepis was great for the time it was a thing (2003 - 2005). Also Gentoo for awhile.

                Nowdays: Arch and Fedora mostly. I put Fedora on a laptop a couple of years ago while trying to see what would work with it and I have been extremely surprised by it. Packages are really up to date, I have gone through a major revision upgrade with no problem at all. Arch is great, but you have to pay attention and deal with change. Fedora is just as up to date but I don’t have to manage the changes.

                And Fedora recently added KDE as an official release instead of a “spin” which is all the better. I hope they keep going, I read that they are not a big team and one of them just left.