Until we reckon with the history of schooling in Australia, and confront the ways it enforces harmful gender norms, we won’t achieve meaningful action on manosphere-accelerated violence.
In primary school most teachers are women, but in high school - which is what we’re talking about, it’s pretty balanced.
More to the point though, something is failing in classrooms. That’s what the article is about, hence the title “misogyny is thriving in our schools”. Obviously it is not being caused by the teachers. The teachers do not want this to happen. It makes for a horrible work environment - especially for the female teachers. Programs and strategies are being implemented to try to address the problem, but the root of the problem is not from the school itself.
I hope that answers your genuine good-faith questions on the topic.
Obviously the teachers do not want this to happen, but they are the ones in the position to teach otherwise and so I ask, why are these women not doing so?
Well, ‘majority’ just means more than 50% - so your claim is true. But that doesn’t mean what I said is “wrong”. The site you linked to says 61%. (Which I still think is relatively balanced compared to many fields of work.) And obviously that proportion will not be uniform in every school.
Why are you trying to push responsibility of the problem to women anyway? That’s pretty weird. I’m surprising you’re still pushing on this even now. It’s as if you actually feel strongly that women teachers in particular are the only people who can address this issue. I don’t know why you’d take that view.
You have said in multiple posts that “women” should be doing more to address the issue of misogyny.
What are you saying now? That you don’t think teachers aren’t doing their jobs? Holy smokes man. It’s not what you were saying before, but it is similarly hateful.
Teachers are limited in what they can do. They aren’t magic - they can’t just snap their fingers and create different beliefs and good behavior. They can’t spend their whole workday trying to un-brainwash a single student. And even if they did, they can’t follow that student home to continue this work. With limited options to actually change a student’s point of view, they are left with options to simply curb the behavior so they can get on with teaching.
However, these options are also limited. They can enact small punishments in the classroom like taking away certain privileges. Or they can send the student to the administration for some kind of punishment like detention. These punishments typically don’t result in significant behavior change. Schools have the option of expelling students, but this is heavily frowned upon by higher-ups, as it puts more strain on overtaxed “second chance” schools, and often brings the ire of parents.
So the teacher ends up stuck with a misbehaving student without the time or resources to effectively change their mind or their behavior. Blaming individual teachers is… dumb. It’s really dumb. Teachers are there to teach, and to handle minor disciplinary issues. They need more resources to handle bigger issues like this.
In primary school most teachers are women, but in high school - which is what we’re talking about, it’s pretty balanced.
More to the point though, something is failing in classrooms. That’s what the article is about, hence the title “misogyny is thriving in our schools”. Obviously it is not being caused by the teachers. The teachers do not want this to happen. It makes for a horrible work environment - especially for the female teachers. Programs and strategies are being implemented to try to address the problem, but the root of the problem is not from the school itself.
I hope that answers your genuine good-faith questions on the topic.
Wrong, in High School (and every other teaching field) the majority of teachers are women.
https://www.acara.edu.au/reporting/national-report-on-schooling-in-australia/staff-numbers
Obviously the teachers do not want this to happen, but they are the ones in the position to teach otherwise and so I ask, why are these women not doing so?
Well, ‘majority’ just means more than 50% - so your claim is true. But that doesn’t mean what I said is “wrong”. The site you linked to says 61%. (Which I still think is relatively balanced compared to many fields of work.) And obviously that proportion will not be uniform in every school.
Why are you trying to push responsibility of the problem to women anyway? That’s pretty weird. I’m surprising you’re still pushing on this even now. It’s as if you actually feel strongly that women teachers in particular are the only people who can address this issue. I don’t know why you’d take that view.
It’s weird that I think teachers should be teaching?
You have said in multiple posts that “women” should be doing more to address the issue of misogyny.
What are you saying now? That you don’t think teachers aren’t doing their jobs? Holy smokes man. It’s not what you were saying before, but it is similarly hateful.
Teachers are limited in what they can do. They aren’t magic - they can’t just snap their fingers and create different beliefs and good behavior. They can’t spend their whole workday trying to un-brainwash a single student. And even if they did, they can’t follow that student home to continue this work. With limited options to actually change a student’s point of view, they are left with options to simply curb the behavior so they can get on with teaching.
However, these options are also limited. They can enact small punishments in the classroom like taking away certain privileges. Or they can send the student to the administration for some kind of punishment like detention. These punishments typically don’t result in significant behavior change. Schools have the option of expelling students, but this is heavily frowned upon by higher-ups, as it puts more strain on overtaxed “second chance” schools, and often brings the ire of parents.
So the teacher ends up stuck with a misbehaving student without the time or resources to effectively change their mind or their behavior. Blaming individual teachers is… dumb. It’s really dumb. Teachers are there to teach, and to handle minor disciplinary issues. They need more resources to handle bigger issues like this.
The problem is lack of good male role models.