• evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Here’s an example: Delaware only allows shotgun, pistol/pistol caliber long guns, and muzzleloader, no true rifle.

    https://www.eregulations.com/delaware/hunting/deer-seasons

    Connecticut only allows rifle on private land.

    https://portal.ct.gov/deep/hunting/2025-connecticut-hunting-and-trapping-guide/deer-hunting#PVSHOT

    Iowa has no rifle allowed.

    https://www.iowadnr.gov/things-do/hunting-trapping/iowa-hunting-seasons

    Lots of states have restrictions against modern (and by modern, i mean bottlenecked) rifle rounds, and if you want to use a rifle, you have to either find a 150 year old cowboy gun, or buy a really expensive new gun using one of several specialized cartridges that cost like $2 a round.

    And then when it comes down to it, if you live in a state where it is legal to hunt with a regular rifle, you end up finding that half the time any public land that you can hunt on is restricted to archery only, so unless you happen to be a large landowner, you can’t hunt with a rifle.

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      1 day ago

      I wonder if those restrictions go back to the Great Depression? That’s the case for the shotgun only areas in southern Minnesota.

      • evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world
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        20 hours ago

        I’m not sure. I know in a lot of those places, the rationale is that the terrain is too flat, so rifle bullets can travel too far.

        The problem is that I don’t know if that actually corresponds to increased risk of death. It sounds plausible, but idk if there are real stats to back it up.

        A quick search for some plausible data turned up California’s official stats, and going back a few years, I never saw more than 5 deaths in a year. Extrapolating the rate to the whole US, that’s like 50 per year. Other sources just say “less than 100 per year for the whole US”.

        Without a specific study, it’s just as plausible to attribute the fatalities to sheer proximity of the shooter to the victim rather than bullets traveling far. Bigger targets are easier to hit. Just looking at the California data, which includes injuries, this seems to bear out, and most injuries and fatalities are due to close range shotgun bird hunting (i.e. the Dick Cheney).

        And really, if you wanted to completely eliminate the risk of rifle bullets traveling further than intended, you could mandate the use of any elevated shooting position (which some places do for archery).

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          20 hours ago

          My understanding is there was maybe some truth to the travel distance once upon a time but that with sabot rounds for shotguns now the ballistics are almost the same between rifle and shotgun.