Thursday marks the 30th day of the federal government shutdown and the American public has grown more concerned about the shutdown throughout the month and more disapprove of how Donald Trump is handling the federal government, according to an ABC News/Washington Post/Ipsos poll conducted using Ipsos’ KnowledgePanel.

More Americans blame Trump and the Republicans in Congress than the Democrats for the shutdown, the poll finds.

  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    Wait, so the MAGAs in the Red states won’t raise their own state minimum wages, and they vote down EVERY minimum wage legislation, and because one turncoat Democrat voted along with the MAGAs, you are going to blame ALL Democrats for it? Even though they brought up the legislation and tried to pass it, instead of the MAGAs who traditionally vote against it, along with a few MAGA Manchurian candidates?

    Besides, why should Democrats save Red State voters from themselves? If they want to vote for lower wages for themselves, and happily send it to others for taxes or tithes, that’s on them. Blue states are smart enough to take care of their citizens, so when smart people emerge in those Red state shitholes, they have somewhere to escape to, where they can make a better life for themselves under Democratic law.

    But you keep telling yourself that MAGAs are good for workers, and the Dems are the true enemies of the workers. I’m sure you’ll find lots of agreement out there - from other simple-minded MAGAs like you.

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      Wait, so the MAGAs in the Red states won’t raise their own state minimum wages, and they vote down EVERY minimum wage legislation,

      Because of that, those of us who committed the grievous sin of being outnumbered by maga chuds have to rely on the national party’s willingness to get any increase in the minimum wage. Our state parties are useless, and it’s a good chunk of why our states remain red. Their leaders are more interested in preserving their positions within a losing party than in winning. Democrats in blue states see their legislators working for them. Democrats in red states see no one at all working for them, even when democrats have a majority. They see a party that has abandoned them, completely and utterly.

      and because one turncoat Democrat voted along with the MAGAs, you are going to blame ALL Democrats for it?

      It wasn’t just one. 8 members of the Democratic Caucus were willing to go on the record as voting against working Americans. And because most of them are from blue states that already have minimum wage increases, their constituents won’t care since they already got theirs. Almost a fifth of the caucus. And those are just the ones who were comfortable enough in their seats to go on the record as hating workers. If the party needed more to block an increase, they would find more.

      Even though they brought up the legislation and tried to pass it

      Sanders brought it up. Sanders is not a democrat, as democrats are happy to use as an excuse for their reprehensible anti-democratic behavior in 2016.

      Besides, why should Democrats save Red State voters from themselves?

      Because they allegedly want to flip those states. Because compassion for your fellow humans doesn’t end in your own community. This “got mine, fuck you” mindset so prevalent in the democratic party’s republican-adjacent wing goes a long way toward explaining why centrists thought genocide was no big deal. It’s not in their backyard, so it’s not a problem.

      But you keep telling yourself that MAGAs are good for workers,

      I never said that. Of course they’re worse. I don’t want democrats to continue converging toward being like them. Which is where you and I clearly differ.